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Joined: 03 January 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4
Posted: 04 January 2009 at 2:59pm  

Hello, i'm testing HeliconJet on my server and first impressions
are realy great. I just yesterday bought Isapi Rewrite 3, and will
probably order HeliconJet aswell in a few days ;)

I'm working on my own CMS system built using ASP classic
and mysql. Alot of static pages on the information site where
they can read about my system. And alot of dynamic pages
that build the pages/forms/menus/templates and design
the users homepages from code and database.

That said, i was wondering if you can tell me about future
problems that might occur from using HeliconJet in such an
enviroment? Should i configure the dynamic pages in some certain
way so that my users wont see old data in for instance their
own webpages after they updated using my cms wyziwyg editor,
or does this work out of the box?

First hour impressions is all good, it seemes to work when
i log in as different users, they get their own custom built
cms menu. And even if i as they are logged in, change how their
menu should look like, if i reload it will load the new menu instead
of the prev. cached. Thats realy great

Sometimes it freezes and is all white and purges me out to the
loginscreen. but that's when i have updated the menu from
mysql and then reload the affected page. Not sure why, but
i think i can work around it since that menu should only be
changed if they add another module and then i could make some
proper change in the link making the cache update manually.

Oh, alot of info, but please tell me if im getting everything wrong
or about certain problems that might occur that i'm not yet
seeen. The CMS is in making and will probably not go live for
a couple of months.

Nicklas Forsberg

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Joined: 03 January 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4
Posted: 04 January 2009 at 3:11pm  

My configuration is out of the Box with
Static 9
Dynamic 6
on /

After reading the documentation:
  • Page does not require a user login
  • Page does not contain any user-specific information
  • Content of the page does not have to be always up-to-date at every moment - there could be some delay before the information will be updated.

I see that i should not server cache any page in the CMS admin
system since it requeries all of the above :) But with 6 is doesn't
do this, correct? Anyhow it seemes to speed up process and
bandwidth alot anyway? What does it do instead?

And a likely scenerio in the live version will be:
user login, creates a new page called "aboutus". Its data
will be in mysql, template and pageloader with asp. Like:
this will then be translated with isape rewrite 3 to a more
seo friendly url, perhaps: aboutus.htm (if possible) using a mapfile
(or if you have any better suggestions).
This aboutus.htm url, can this be cached in anyway?
Is HeliconJet the way to go or should i by script create a static
.htm page that then are cached using HeliconJet?
The page need to be recreated or recached everytime its updated
using the cms. Any suggestions and tips?

Nicklas Forsberg

Edited by Nalfaren - 04 January 2009 at 4:44pm
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Location: Sweden
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Posted: 04 January 2009 at 4:21pm  

And one more thing:
ReportTemplate.htm or "Show HeliconJet Statistics" link in Helicon Manager doesn't work or display anything. It tries to access:

I tried to manually create the folder and copy the ReportTemplate.htm
as Report.htm. But that didn't help
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Posted: 05 January 2009 at 8:30am  

we are happy you enjoyed first steps with our products! Don't hesitate to address with any issues you encounter.

Want to give some comments: we advise you to exclude certain filetypes (gif,jpg,png) so that they are not compressed as it's almost senseless
(in default config these extnsions are excluded).

And concerning cache: if you know how often the pages are updated or if these updates are infrequent, you may set reasonable expiration time to
minimize delays. If updates are frequent or occur randomly you should be aware that there may be some delays and a user will get the page from
cache until it expires.

Concerning aboutus.htm: Helicon Jet will work after ISAPI_Rewrite without additional adjustments and scripts.

To disable Jet for admin folder, please add the following code into config file:

Static Level:0
Dynamic Level:0

Can you please explain how did you mention that cache and compression are working? Have you measured the traffic or response time?

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Location: Sweden
Posts: 4
Posted: 05 January 2009 at 8:51am  

Thanks for the reply :) I'll look into it and test some as i develop
the last bits of the system :)...

Too see if cache and compression was working i used Firefox
plugin Firebug 1.2.1 and choose Net. Then i could see which
how much each file takes in size and time. I saw major
improvements on the admin menu, as my test user has 25+ modules
activated it loads up alot of menuoptions, in tables and alot of
javascript code, so the asp file alone was about 380kb each load. With
HeliconJet is was only 24 kb! :) so thats a major plus :)

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